I may be revealing too much here, but my answer is niether. When I was at Bethel at lunch one day this guy ask me "so Darth what do you look forward to doing in the new system." with out missing a beat I replied 'build my own spaceship and cruise the galaxy.' The table head, who was also my overseer, then chimed in 'so Darth what you look forward to is getting away from the rest of us.' I should have takin that as a sign.
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When you were a JW, which would you have prefered living on earth or heaven
by JH inwhen you were a jw and believed that either you could live in heaven or on earth eternally, which did you prefer and why?.
although we were told that heaven was a better place to live, that we would see god, and that we would live eternally and never die, i prefered living on earth, never see god, and not 100% sure of living eternally, cause we would still be mortals forever, even though we could live eternally on earth.
most jw's i know said that they would have prefered living on earth eternally in perfect health than living in heaven.
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Bible verses or theological questions which "breaks" JW
by Shazard ini am newbie here and i am not ex-jw.
christ managed to protect me, but my brother fell into this cult.
now coz of this i am confessional lutheran.
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darth frosty
At their core all witnesses are one 'incident' away from leaving. Those of you that are ex JWs think, there was always something that didn't quite sit right with you. Whether it was billions dying at armagedon, the fakeness of the brethen around you or the thought that the resurrected wont be having sex cause they'll be like angels (despite the fact the angels themselves saw the daughters of man and got horny go fig.) But, what moves you to truly look behind the curtain where the wizard lives is some 'incident' where someone pisses you off or theres somethin in the WT that you just cant meekly swallow no more. For me it was the 12/03 WT study article where they said our days are like noah's when god declared 120 yrs before the flood comes. It then went on to say some 90 years have past since 1914?!? do the math we now have another 30 yrs in this system. Once that 'incident' occured the blinkers, that the borg blinds you with are removed and you are able, if you choose to explore other options. But, there is a catch to all this. Your eyes may now be opened but the unbearable lightness of being may be overwelming to some. Some may experience sensory overload and its just too much for them. This is where the borg conditioning kicks in and you feel the need to retrive those blinders. Sorry if I got off into a rant there, I just mean to say a person has to be ready to accept reasoning, other wise "A man convinced against his will, is of his own opimion still."
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Today at the KH, Hopefully opens my wifes' eyes
by DaCheech inthe kids were sleeping, and one brother came up to me "is there a microphone on thats picking up some loud noise"?..
i said "all mikes are off except for the stage".
he said "there's gotta be something because the noise is annoying!".
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darth frosty
for some reason your story reminded me of the final episode of M*A*S*H
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Over 160,000 Simply Left The "Truth" Last Year
by minimus inthat was the comment that a former elder made at the local meeting today in his comment.
evidently, he and his wife heard a bethel speaker's comment during his talk say that (i believe the figure was) 167,000 people did not get disfellowshipped but simply left.
the ex-elder made it a point to say that the elders should be watching to help out the flock before they up and leave.
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darth frosty
they'll just use the scripture in mathew about the love of the greater number cooling off to show that we are trully in the last of the last, last days of the toes of this system...last
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Watchtower publications Quotes you'd like to share
by dannyboy inplease give examples of noteworthy quotations from publications of the watchtower society.
examples could include where they have contradicted themselves, have been inconsistent with logic, have been patronizing, or how what was written rocked you back.
think about quotes that would be helpful to a sincere witness or "newly interested" person in seeing the watchtower society for what it really is.
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darth frosty
one that given my current status I would like to find. There was a study article back in the late 80s early 90s that talked about apostates and it stated that apostates were not content to merely leave the borg and say this life is not for me. But instead apostates feel a need to beat and persecute their former brothers in arms. loose quote but essentially on point. This led one to belive that there is an out, but we know this to be untrue.
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The Idiocy of the Universal Sovreignty Issue
by Black Man indoes anyone else have trouble processing the logic behind the wts issue of universal sovreignty?
why empower satan to make claims and give him the time and circumstances to prove his claims?
why have a bet between 2 people decide the fate of the universe?
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darth frosty
Hell the WTS put the screws to a web site that merely published info that they had already put out.
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The Idiocy of the Universal Sovreignty Issue
by Black Man indoes anyone else have trouble processing the logic behind the wts issue of universal sovreignty?
why empower satan to make claims and give him the time and circumstances to prove his claims?
why have a bet between 2 people decide the fate of the universe?
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darth frosty
I forgot who posted this statement(sorry) "Satan and the demons seem to be the ones who get something out of this. At least they make it to the PARADISE, while most everyone else gets deep-sixed at Armageddon. And another thing is why does Satan get get shown so much respect by getting the chance to RAISE ISSUES? If I wanted to raise a sovreignty issue, God wouldn't give a f**k? " This intrigues me because we cant disagree with an elder or say something even remotely disparaging of them and yet satan is not only allowed to challenge god but keep it going for millenia. How many on this board has ask the BOE a legitiment ? regarding an organazational flaw and been branded a apostate or trouble maker.
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Calling all Bethelites
by Nadsam inwhen you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!
stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!
)longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !
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darth frosty
fridays was granola day and boiled eggs. I truly despised that form of manna.
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The Idiocy of the Universal Sovreignty Issue
by Black Man indoes anyone else have trouble processing the logic behind the wts issue of universal sovreignty?
why empower satan to make claims and give him the time and circumstances to prove his claims?
why have a bet between 2 people decide the fate of the universe?
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darth frosty
black man this is the most intriging post I have read and it raises a really simplistic ?
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THE CHEESE CRACKER MEN - R - Defined
by JT injt, .
i normally understand everything you write, and get what you mean, but i have been trying to figure out your cheese cracker men expression?
danny.
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darth frosty
I love your reasoning here.